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Submarinos nucleares en Rota

España reprocha a EE UU
el paso de un buque por el Estrecho de Gibraltar

  • EE UU explica que no se pudo desviar el sumergible porque los preparativos estaban muy avanzados.
  • Las familias de los tripulantes ya habían comprado billetes a Gibraltar.
ID:
73124
Etiquetas:
OTRA, SP
Fecha:
2006-07-31 11:02:00
RefID:
06MADRID1923
Origen:
Embassy Madrid
Clasificación:
CONFIDENTIAL
Destino:
06MADRID1834
06MADRID189
Encabezado:
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C O N F I D E N T I A L MADRID 001923

SIPDIS




C O R R E C T E D C O P Y - CLASSIFICATION REASON ADDED

SIPDIS

FOR EUR/WE, NEA, AF

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/28/2016
TAGS: OTRA, SP
SUBJECT: SPAIN: AMBASSADOR'S JULY 27 MEETING WITH FM
MORATINOS

REF: A. MADRID 1834
B. MADRID 189

Classified By: KATHLEEN FITZPATRICK, ACTING DEPUTY CHIEF OF MISSION,
FOR REASONS 1.4 b and d

1. (C//NF) Summary: Ambassador Aguirre had a wide ranging
discussion with Spanish Foreign Minister Moratinos on July
27, the day after Moratinos, return from the Lebanon Core
Group meeting in Rome. Moratinos was very pleased with his
treatment by the Secretary during the meeting and especially
grateful the US did not pose obstacles to his attendance.
The Ambassador and Moratinos identified a number of areas in
which Spain desired to help in the global agenda, including
in Iraq, Latin America, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa.
Moratinos said Spain would be willing to contribute troops to
a Lebanon stabilization force; however, though he did not
state this to the Ambassador, both he and Spanish Vice
President Fernandez de la Vega have made clear the force
would have to be under UN mandate (Comment: Embassy believes
that while Moratinos may want Spain to contribute, the
government will have to work this issue carefully through
their political process, and this will be affected by events
such as the Qana attacks). Ambassador Aguirre told Moratinos
that President Zapatero's comments on Israel and Iraq were
unhelpful and unwelcome.
End summary

//Lebanon//

2. (C//NF) Spanish FM Moratinos expressed to Ambassador
Aguirre his delight with the treatment he had received from
Sec retary Rice during the Lebanon Core Group meeting in Rome
and was especially appreciative of US willingness to include
him in the meeting, after rejection of a similar request last
year. Moratinos felt he was able to assist the Secretary in
crafting the final statement of the conference. Moratinos
said that the meeting was not the failure that the press had
made it out to be. He said Spain would be willing to
participate in an international stabilization force, perhaps
with a battalion of troops. Moratinos had spoken with
Defense Minister Alonso, who, though reluctant because of the
possible risks involved to Spanish soldiers had agreed Spain
should participate (NOTE: Moratinos did not insist as he had
in public commentary, that Spanish participation depended on
the force coming under UN or some other international
auspices but this has since been made clear by Spain's Vice
President. We believe that while Moratinos would like Spain
to contribute to the force, the government will have to tread
carefully with a skittish Spanish public, particularly after
the Qana attacks.)

//Israel/Zapatero comments//

3. (C//NF) Moratinos acknowledged that relations with Israel
had become tense over President Zapatero,s comments on the
Lebanon situation. Moratinos had thought he had smoothed
things over in conversations with the Israeli Ambassador to
Spain, and with senior Israeli officials. However, that
remarks by Socialist Party organization Secretary Jose Blanco
that Israel was deliberately targeting civilians had set this
process back.

4. (C//NF) Ambassador Aguirre said that Zapatero,s comments
linking the situation in Lebanon to the intervention in Iraq
were unhelpful and unwelcome. The Ambassador told Moratinos
that he had heard from Defense Minister Alonso and others
that the comments were aimed at the domestic audience,
specifically to criticize the previous Aznar government for
having put Spanish troops into Iraq. The Ambassador said if
that is the case, this was not evident, because Zapatero,s
comments reflected a &shotgun8 approach that sprayed on the
US relationship. If he is aiming at his own audience, he
should target his remarks as such and leave the US and our
role in Iraq out of his domestic political commentary.
Moratinos took this on board. The Ambassador also said that
he was in regular contact with the Israeli Ambassador Viktor
Harel, who was out alone on a limb in the public environment
in Spain. The Ambassador said he was working with Harel to
shore him up publicly, perhaps at a public event where they
both could be photographed together.

5. (C//NF) Moratinos offered his assessment of Syria and
Iran, saying that the Iranian regime is &unsalvageable,8
but that he believes there remain opportunities to bring the
Syrian regime around. That has been the idea behind his
contacts with the Syrian Information Minister, who had served
as Syria,s Ambassador to Spain.

//Latin America//

6. (C//NF) Moratinos and Ambassador Aguirre also reviewed
several Latin America issues. Moratinos said he thought that
the situation had eased somewhat in the region with the
elections of Alan Garcia in Peru and Calderon in Mexico,
moving away from populist trends. Moratinos said the
situation had improved somewhat for Spanish companies such as
Repsol in Bolivia. On Venezuela, Moratinos, noted Chavez,
unhelpful visit to Belarus, which he hoped would clearly show
his erstwhile supporters that he is not a reliable figure.

7. (C//NF) Ambassador Aguirre raised Cuba, noting that a
recent article in Spain,s leading daily El Pais, considered
to be reflective of the Socialist government views, had a
detailed article about Spanish views on an eventual
transition to Cuba that was at odds with what Moratinos and
senior leaders had conveyed to the USG (see REF A). The
article quotes unnamed mid-level Spanish Foreign Ministry
sources as saying that Spain would support a transition to
democracy that included figures such as Raul Casto or FM
Perez Roque. Moratinos was unfamiliar with the article but
said that on the issue of GOS thinking on transition, it was
inaccurate. Spain believes the transition to democracy will
resemble Spain,s own transition 30 years ago, and will
involve figures in the current government who will help
provide stability as democracy takes hold. But, Moratinos
said, Spain has not identified Raul or Perez Roque as those
figures. Ambassador Aguirre underscored the importance for
the US and Spain of having a clear and precise understanding
of each other's policies, and if there are true differences,
we need to discuss those and make certain that these
differences are being handled in such a way as not to affect
the entire relationship. Ambassador said we could be faced
with a transition in Cuba at any time and the US and Spain
should understand whether we are in agreement or not before
faced with events on the ground in Cuba.

//Arranging Shannon-Leon Discussions and US-Spain Latin
America Working Group Meeting//

8. (C//NF) Ambassador Aguirre noted the need to organize
discussions between A/S Shannon and Bernardino Leon to
respond to the Secretary's and Moratinos, tasking following
their meeting to identify specific countries/projects for
US-Spain cooperation in Latin America. He said we were
trying to arrange a meeting between Leon and Shannon on the
margins of the inauguration ceremonies in Bogota. The
Ambassador also pressed for a larger meeting of the US-Spain
Latin-America working group on the margins of UNGA in New
York. He said we are working with Spanish and US
counterparts to determine if a meeting can be held when the
Spanish team is in New York, approximately between Sept.
17-23. Moratinos said that his Latin America team would be
there during that time frame and meeting could be organized.
He will arrive a little later because he would be in London
Sept. 18 signing a Gibraltar agreement.

//Iraq/Basrah hospital contribution//

9. (C//NF) The Ambassador thanked Moratinos for Spain,s
willingness to contribute approximately $22 million to the
Basrah children's hospital in Iraq. He handed him a copy of
a letter of appreciation from the First Lady. Moratinos said
that President Zapatero was personally committed to the
project and it has Spain,s full commitment. Moratinos,
however, that depositing the funds by Sept. 1 as we requested
would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for the GOS,
which has to rearrange budgets and priorities in order to
assemble the money. This will take time, and he asked for
our understanding. (Subsequently, Moratinos, chief of staff
told us that Moratinos was pressuring the &system8 to come
up with the contribution quickly because of the full
political commitment of the government of Spain.
Nonetheless, the final appropriation probably will not be
able to be made until much later this year.)

//GOS desire for DAS and expert-level discussions on Western
Sahara and North Africa//

10. (C//NF) Both Moratinos and the Ambassador agreed that we
should start now to prepare solid substance and outcomes for
the Secretary's visit to Madrid, including on Latin America
and the Basrah hospital but also in other areas. In this
connection. MFA Director General for Middle East, North
Africa and sub-Saharan Africa Alvaro Iranzo said that he
would very much like to organize consultations with the US at
the experts level on Western Sahara and on broader North
Africa issues. He was awaiting a reply to his letter to[eliminado por 20minutos.es] inviting him to come to Spain (Iranzo said he had a
brief conversation with Welch in Rome and reminded him of the
letter). Iranzo said the he understood that A/S Welch likely
could not visit Spain, but he asked that we help arrange
discussions at the NEA DAS level with NEA Maghreb experts to
meet with Iranzo and his North Africa team. Iranzo said the
discussions could take place in Washington, in New York on
the margins of UNGA or in Madrid, whichever works best for
the US side. Ambassador Aguirre undertook to put forward
this suggestion to the NEA bureau, underscoring his support
for the idea. Iranzo said this proposal was separate for
ideas Spain had put forward on a meeting of a multinational
&Group of Friends8 but rather was aimed bilaterally so the
US and Spain could share views and anticipate key
developments. He hoped this meeting could take place before
the October UNSC discussions on MINURSO extension.

(C//NF) (Embassy Comment: We are in e-mail contact with NEA
counterparts about responding to Iranzo,s letter and to his
idea of a working group meeting. Ambassador Aguirre
recommends we respond positively to the working group idea,
so that we understand better the policies and role of one of
the key actors in the area and find ways to work more
concertedly with Spain on key North Africa issues such as
counter-terrorism. This is also part of our broader effort
to enlist Spain in supporting our global agenda where our
interests and challenges coincide. While Spain,s focus is
more on Western Sahara, and the issue should be a separate
agenda item for the discussions, we could use the opportunity
to identify broader issues and opportunities for cooperation
in the Maghreb region as a second piece of the discussions.)

//US-Spain Africa cooperation//

11. (C//NF) Iranzo also noted the exchange of letters between
the Secretary and Moratinos and the Deputy Secretary and
Spanish Deputy FM Bernardino Leon on ways to cooperate in
sub-Saharan Africa, now a key focus for Spain because of the
influx of immigrants from that region. He had invited [eliminado por 20minutos.es] to Spain to discuss specifics, and noted that a good
opportunity for her to visit would be in November at a
conference in the Canary Islands (where the sub-Saharan
immigrants first enter Spain) for the inauguration of Spain's
"Casa Africa," to include African union and African
government representatives. Ambassador agreed that the many
challenges in Africa offer ripe opportunities for the US and
Spain to work together, and again undertook to lend his
support for discussions with the African bureau on this issue
(NOTE: Embassy Madrid has been active in encouraging Spain to
look for ways to work with us on our global agenda, including
specifically in sub-Saharan Africa where Spain has just
launched its own "Plan Africa" to increase Spanish presence
and development and other assistance to help stem the
immigrant flow into Spain.)

//Gibraltar: US nuclear sub visit//

12. (C//NF) At the close of the meeting, Ambassador Aguirre
noted that he had taken a phone call from Spanish MFA
Director General for North America and Europe Jose Pons, who
said he was calling on behalf of Minister Moratinos to
express concern about a July 29 US nuclear submarine port
visit to Gibraltar (ref B). Pons had asked why the ship
could not dock at the base at Rota, Spain instead, which the
Spanish would prefer. Moratinos was unaware of this specific
ship visit, and was brought up to speed at the meeting by his
chief of staff. However, Moratinos underscored the
sensitivity of Gibraltar for Spain and in particular the
nuclear ship visit issue, especially since the disastrous
visit of the UK ship the Tireless whose nuclear plant had to
be repaired port side. Moratinos said these visits
engendered protests from Green parties and others.
Ambassador Aguirre explained that the current visit was not a
signal either to Spain or to the UK, and that it was a port
visit only, with no operational component and no repairs
scheduled. The Ambassador told Morationos he had discussed
the visit with NAVEUR who explained that the ship could not
be diverted to Rota at this time because the families of ship
personnel were already on their way to Gibraltar. The
Ambassador told Morationos this visit will go forward.
(Embassy Comment: Per ref B, Ambassador Aguirre would like
to work out with our navy and others a more appropriate
protocol with NAVEUR, Embassy London and other appropriate
authorities so that Embassy Madrid could provide its views
in advance of Gibraltar ship visit decision on timing and
other possible concerns that could arise that affect US
interests in Spain).
AGUIRRE;"